Abu Hanifa With Imam Jaafar Sadiq (as)


Imam Sadiq's (pbuh) debate with Abo Hanifa

Ibn Shabrama came with Abi Hanifa to Imam Sadiq (pbuh). Imam (pbuh) told


Ibn Shabrama: who is with you?

Ibn Shabrama: a man with keen thinking of religion.
Imam (pbuh) : might he be that who thinks that he can use measures and comparison in religion?

Ibn Shabrama: yes.

Then Imam (pbuh) look at Abi Hanifa and said: what is your name?
Abi Hanifa: Al-Noman.

Imam (pbuh): O Noman, did you measure your head?
He: and how could I?

Imam (pbuh): do you know why is there cataract in the eyes, bitteness in the ears, coldness in the nose, and wetness in the lips?

Abi Hanifa denied any knowledge of that. Then Imam (pbuh) asked him more: do you know a phrase that start with infidelity and ends with faith?

Abi Hanifa: No. then he asked Imam Sadiq (pbuh) to clarify to him all these.

Then Imam (pbuh) said: my father told me, that my grandfather the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: out of merit of Allah and generosity, He made cataract for humans in his eyes so that it would catch the dirt, and He made bitterness in the ears as a veil from bugs. Since if one enters a headed towards the brain, it would taste the bitterness and leave. And He made coldness in the nose so that one can inhale, and if it weren’t like that, the brain would rotten. And He made the lips wet so that it would feel pleasure in tasting food.

Then Abi Hanifa told Imam Sadiq (pbuh): tell about the phrase that starts with infidelity and ends with faith.

Imam (pbuh) :Infidelity is when a servant says : “there is no God” and faith is when he continues “But Allah”

Then Imam told Abi Hanifa not to use his own measures in religion and said : O Abi Hanifa, my father told me that my grandfather the Messenger of Allah said: the 1st one to use his own measures in religion was Ibless when Allah told him to prostrate to Adam. Iblees said : I’m better than him, you created me from fire, and created him from clay.

Abi Hanifa met Imam Sadiq (pbuh) another time and Imam asked him: do you know what is the punishment of breaking the 4 incisors of a deer?

Abi Hanifa: O son of Messenger of Allah, I don’t know?

Imam (pbuh): don’t you know that the deer has only 2 incisors.

A third time, he met Imam Sadiq (pbuh) and Imam (pbuh) asked him about few issues in Islam and he didn’t answer it. Among the questions were: which is greater in the eye of Allah, Murder of fornication?

He: Murder.

Imam (pbuh): then why did Allah accepted 2 witnesses for murder and yet 4 for fornication.

Then Imam asked Abi Hanifa: which is better, prayer of fasting?

He: prayer is better.

Imam (pbuh): then according to your measures, after the menstrual cycle, a women should pray what she have missed of prayer, and don’t fast what she have missed of days. But Allah obligated fasting the missing days and not praying.

Then Imam asked: what is more dirty, urine or semen?

He: urine.

Imam (pbuh): then according to your measures, one should shower (Ghusul) after urination because it is more dirty, and not after ejecting semen. And Allah obligated the Ghusul after semen and not urine.

Then Imam (pbuh) said: tell me your opinion about if a man had a slave, and he and his slave married at the same night, then both traveled and let their women in the same house, and both women gave birth to boys. Then the house fell on the two women and killed them and the two boys stayed alive. In you opinion, who is the owner and who is the owned, and who is the inheritor and who is the inherited?

Abi Hanifa declared that he is incapable to solve such issue and said : I have limits (in knowledge).

And here Imam Sadiq (pbuh) asked another question: what is your opinion about a blind man who put off an eye of another man, and cut off the hand of another, what would be his punishment?

Abi Hanifa: I am man with knowledge of the messages of prophets.

Then Imam (pbuh) asked him: then tell me about the saying of Allah when He sent Moussa and Haroun to Pharoa {he might remember or fear}. Do you think that “might” here is about doubt.

He: yes.

Imam (pbuh): are you saying that Allah doubted when he said “might”

He: I don’t know.

Then Imam (pbuh) said: you claim that you have knowledge of the Book of Allah, and you are not of who inherited it (its knowledge). You claim that you are a man of measures and comparison, and the 1st to use measures was Ibless (may Allah damn him) as Islam wasn’t built on measures and comparison. You claim that you have your own opinion, and the only right opinion is only to the Messenger of Allah (pbuh), and what else is false. For that Allah said {judge between them as Allah showed you} and Allah didn’t say that to any one else. You claim that you are a man of limits, and whom it descended upon him is more worthy to have its knowledge than you. You claim that you have knowledge of the messages of prophets, and the last of the prophets is have more knowledge of it than you. And if people wouldn’t say that he came to the son of the messenger of Allah, and he asked him nothing. I wouldn’t have asked you a thing. So compare and measure as you want if you can.

And so Abi Hanifa told Imam Sadiq (pbuh): I will not speak of any opinion or measure in religion after this.

Imam Jaafar Sadiq (pbuh) replied: No, love of leadership will not abandon you, as it didn’t with those before you.

Bihar Al-Anwar vol.2 p.287, Al-Ihtijaj vol.2 p.360

(Inspected & Translated by Sayyid Shouhadaa's (AS) for Islamic Research






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